Mixed msged, bad underwriting
by Haifa on Jun 8, 2018
2.5 out of 5 stars
After three months of telling them to cancel my renewal, they continued to charge me till my lawyers got involved. Now it's a battle to get it back. Do not use them
Worst customer service. Worst Management, worst company I ever see in Canada. Please take a movement to read and know more about this company if you want to avoid high Blood pressure and save your money. DON’T believe and don’t trust those people. I had been more than six years with CDI. Unfortunately, one day they switched me to Belairdirect. They promised that everything will be the same. But that never happened. The same day they raised up the price 20% for two auto policies. When I called, they said everyone rose up. The second year the same happened: they raised them again another 20% although I never had any claim or any tickets. I walked in and discussed with one of their agent. I asked why you raise up the price without any reasons?? She answered: "We had so many claims this year and the company paid too much money to cover them". I asked: "But I didn’t get any claims or tickets. I have been with CDI. The price never rose up. On the contrary, they used to give me yearly 10% discount because I never had any accidents or tickets. Plus they gave me a lot of benefits such as: Family Protection Endorsement Comprehensive Cover - Limited Glass Accident Forgiveness (Accident rating waiver endorsement) PLUS PAC - OPTION B: Loss of Use, Legal Liability for Damage to Non-Owned Automobiles and Emergency Service Expense endorsements". She tried to push me to accept some reduction of my coverage to try to reduce the price. It is a fake way to rise up the price. After pressure, I did accept. This year is the fourth. Again. The same stupid conversation. Same question. Why you raised up the price again?? The agent answered: "We had a lot of claims, cost the company too much. And all the clients are in the same pool". I asked: "Is it fair to take money from me and give it to careless drivers and the bad drivers?" He answered: "If you need to fix a pumper, it will cost more than what you pay". I told him "this is the nature of your business like so many other insurance companies. You don’t do special things. If your owners of this company are not happy with this business, they have to shut it down". Anyway. I am so sorry if my notes big. But I wouldn’t give any quarter star but unfortunately, the minimum is one. I am looking now for another company and will leave it soon.
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Trying to cancel because I'm done being ripped off is a nightmare. Can't get an amount or even an answer as to when I am covered until without making another payment, without every single piece of identification they can get short of asking for my SIN. Customer service when you're purchasing or updating is fantastic hence why they got a 2 star. Monthly payments for what you get are absolutely ridiculous. Much better/more reasonable companies around. Do your research! Don't give this company your hard earned money! (been with them over 5 years now and been ripped off since day 1. Live and learn right?)
They talk like the sweetest person when you are buying a plan but when you say you are cancelling, even if you show them you get much better rates at Johnson they treat you bad. I paid a full year premium, but when I called in to cancel my policy upon expiry, the rudest customer service agent I ever faced said that I need to pay cancellation fees. I said I am not on monthly plan but paid a full year amount, she was still insisting on paying the cancellation fees. I haven't paid the fees and I will never pay those fees. Belairdirect is by far the worst insurance company I have known in the past 20 years. BEWARE, DON'T GO TO THEM
Last month, I inquired about changing insurance companies to Belair and I have had nothing but terrible service. Originally I was told that I was being held “at fault” for an accident 3 years ago. When I contacted my other insurance company AS PER Belair request, they told me I was not at fault which I already knew. When I sent Belair proof, they then found another reason to decline me of their service and told me that my “permanent address” on my driver license was invalid because I was temporarily living in North Bay. The person I spoke to on the phone told me, they have no reason to believe that I am living where I currently am because they have no proof. Yet, when I provided proof, they continued to tell me that, it wasn’t proof enough. So I told them to delete all my info as I will not be switching as they are making this way too much of a process. I don't care to put more effort into this to save less than 50$ a month. I'm not happy at all. As well the person who I was speaking to on the phone was extremely rude to me. His tone and his "you are incorrect, I was very clear about what I needed from you, and you fail to provide" attitude, completely turned me off of their business. I will never deal with Belair again as their customer service did not make my experience easy or pleasant to deal with. I have friends who have had nothing but issues with this service as well. I was willing to give them a chance as originally I was quoted $97 a month, which by the time I was done, I was sitting at $180. Terrible service. Extremely disappointed. Don’t quote so low, if it’s not the truth.
I moved to another city and i notified them right away, They told me to prove my residence at the new address. I sent them my rent agreement , they asked for one more proof like a phone bill or a credit card statement. We all know these generate monthly and not within a day, I said i cannot bring that in a day so they have now threatened to cancel my policy. A cancellation on my policy means increased premiums in the future. I am now hoping my statement generates on monday before they cancel on tuesday ( it is uncertain, goes up or down 1 day).
This just didnt make sense to me.
Had 2 at-fault collisions, one as minor as you can get but still didn't qualify as a non-event, and one I accepted as a collision. Belair then sent me an invoice for my next term, something like $2,500 per year from $1,000ish. So I called about the invoice, and then I'm told that I'm "high-risk" essentially because of a fender-bender that should have been a non-event, and I easily could have paid off the damage ( turned out the guy made a claim )... Then they said to disregard the invoice because they can't insure me at all... Really? How did they end up sending it? So 2 accidents total, one was untrue but fine I can deal with it. What really ticked me off is a few months after my term ended Belair started going after my family at the same address saying I, a "high-risk" driver due to a 10km/h fender-bender, have "access" to their vehicles ( oh no! ) even though I have my own new insurance company that doesn't consider me a high-risk driver, that none of the details matter, and that they can't even insure my family at all either! 2 at-fault collisions in 6 years is their limit, doesn't matter how minor or severe, no exceptions or explanations. Oh, and your family has to pay for it too. Now I'm with Sonnet, about $1,400 per year with 2 accidents, that's over $1,000 less than Belair accidentally quoted. Robotic and impersonal at best.
I was moving away due to work and wanted to cancel the insurance. The first representative tells me that there's no charge for cancellation and the other person tells me since "you can't provide the address of the new place your moving to in another province then we will have to charge you $210". This company is a scammer. The representative over the phone was rude and didn't know how to speak to customers. I will not even give them any stars for rating. The worst experience I had!
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I contacted the Vancouver Office yesterday to renew my auto policy which expires today Sept 21st. Previously I was with Canadian Direct for my excess coverage but it appears they have been bought out by BelAir Direct Insurance. First of all my premium for the exact same coverage is now $100. more than last year? When I called yesterday I paid the full premium of $573 by Credit card and received a confirmation #. However, that exercise took at least 30 minutes as I was shuttled from one employee to another and had to listen to their music while they fiddled. The first employee was willing to take my money but he was unable to answer any questions about the coverage? Then later the second employee did as I directed (he didn't seem to be too clued in either) and dropped the Full Replacement Offer and credited me ( on the quote) the $42
However, today I received a call reminding me that it is time to renew my policy?I advised that I renewed yesterday and I have a confirmation # for my payment.Then he suggested I only made a partial payment of $42.
Eventually he transferred me to someone else and my irritation came through and this guy decided to believe me that I had paid and I have a confirmation #. I just checked my MC account and the payment was posted yesterday.
For the record when my next renewal time arrives I will be looking elsewhere and anywhere other than BelAir Direct.
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So I'm going to be frank here, hoping someone would learn from my experience. I signed up after shopping around, and they offered the best price, so I'll give them that, they offered a great deal! Annually I got quoted for 1560, since I paid the entire amount, I actually paid 1540! GREAT! Now here is when the trouble starts. 1) the person who set me up made a mistake, apparently. He included a loyalty discount because I was with my previous company for 3 years. I informed him I was with RBC for 3 years, then moved to TD for the past year - he informed me, "No worries, I'll consider the higher years" - WOW, AWESOME, or so I thought. (April 10) 2) April 13, I get a call with the following: "Oh, so sorry, we can't include the discount since the more recent company is only 1 year" - I argue, well, your agent, he'll consider the 3 years. But meh, 5% increase, 100$, WHATEVER! 3) I get another call, "Oh, we discovered your mom is also a co-owner, we require to show her proof of insurance, and your letter of experience, if you can prove that your mom has her own insurance, it won't impact your rate". FANTASTIC! Both documents provided. 4) On April 17, I receive an email, "We made multiple attempts to contact you, please call Belair", on Apr 17, Belair successfully reached me, and requested a letter of experience to prove that the 2 claims are under my mom and not myself - that was provided. 5) On May 22, I receive a letter, "You owe us 755$ because we backdated your insurance to include your mom since she is a co-owner, and we felt that she is a high risk". I wasn't even aware that my policy was changed or updated. 6) Talked to a supervisor, who ensured that if I get my mom out of my ownership, then it'll be easier to start a new policy with only my name. So on May 27, went to service Ontario, got the ownership updated, had to replace my tires, do safety test, total of 600$ expense to get her out of my ownership. Jun 4 I get a new ownership, provide it to Belair, and started talking about new policy. The new policy was 300$ more expensive than the original policy, because the system generates new numbers and now I don't qualify for even 1 year loyalty, because my previous policy was only for 1 month... I decided to cancel. Only at that point did customer service decide to get everything resolved. I talked to her for good 3 hours, and I got nowhere! So, on April 17, they sent me "We were trying to reach you", and they reached me, but apparently it was a different department who reached me, customer service vs agent, and I was supposed to still call Belairdirect even though they were able to call me and request the letter of experience which was provided. They also sent me an email requesting to be contacted on Apr 17, and I responded to their agent. The agent failed to check and see that they need to inform me about the backdating. So from April 17 - May 22 there was no contact, and I was under the assumption that I'm paying 1540, and not aware they increased my policy because my mom (co-owner) was included in my policy, and they decided to increase the price without communication. Even though multiple agents confirmed "If mom has her own insurance, it will NOT impact yours". So let's do some math: I paid 1540/ 12 months= 128.33$ a month. New rate (wasn't aware of, nor approved, nor agreed too) was set up on April 13, and I communicated with Belair on Apr 17, and they "forgot" to mention the increase because it's a different department (advice: ask if the call comes, if the person is customer service, or agent, and continue calling to ensure that your policy hasn't changed, and they didn't backdate your policy and overwrote what YOU agreed too), back to math: (1540+755)/2 = 190, so when I canceled, they charged me the 190 + 5$ since the month is 31 day and not 30 days. So I paid them extra 70$ because they added 755 without my knowledge. On top of that, I paid 600$ to get mom out of my ownership, and they gave me a higher rate 1 month after. I should have stuck with 1540+755 with mom on policy, would have been cheaper. My experience with customer service was good - the people tried their best to resolve the issue, BUT the underwriting department doesn't know what the heck they are doing, each person makes their own rules, and each person gives you a different answer, you qualify for 5% royalty, no, you don't , your mom won't impact you if she has her own insurance, no, it will increase your rate by 755. We will communicate with you to inform you about any update, oops, the person forgot to mention this detail. Belair department don't communicate with each other, so if someone calls, you should call again and again and again to make sure all the departments are satisfied. Best part was when customer service agent asked me to log in to my customer service profile online, and I was never aware I had a profile to check. From my wonderful experience detailed above, I will NEVER ever recommend this company to my worst enemy, I swear I've had panic attacks just dealing with them, and update all the documentations that they requested.